{"id":519,"date":"2013-05-24T06:55:29","date_gmt":"2013-05-24T04:55:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/foreningforalla.se\/?p=519"},"modified":"2020-04-20T13:33:31","modified_gmt":"2020-04-20T11:33:31","slug":"okunnigt-och-populistiskt-om-ungdomsorganisationer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinambai.se\/en\/okunnigt-och-populistiskt-om-ungdomsorganisationer\/","title":{"rendered":"Okunnigt och populistiskt om ungdomsorganisationer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ig\u00e5r skrev Joar Horn (M) en <a href=\"\/\/www.aftonbladet.se\/debatt\/article16828442.ab\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">debattartikel i Aftonbladet<\/a> i vilken han kopplar kravallerna i Husby till att ungdomsorganisationer f\u00e5r statligt st\u00f6d. D\u00e4rf\u00f6r argumenterar han f\u00f6r att dra in statsbidraget till ungdomsorganisationer och ge pengar till idrotten ist\u00e4llet. Nog h\u00e5ller den offentliga diskussionen om det civila samh\u00e4llet oftast ingen s\u00e4rskilt h\u00f6g niv\u00e5, men Joar Horns artikel \u00e4r ett l\u00e5gvattenm\u00e4rke.<\/p>\n<p>Vi kan g\u00e5 genom hans text punkt f\u00f6r punkt.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201d218 [&#8230;] organisationer och f\u00f6rbund f\u00e5r [&#8230;] dela p\u00e5 sammanlagt 258 miljoner kronor varje \u00e5r &#8211; pengar som delas ut helt utan krav p\u00e5 motprestationer. Det enda man beh\u00f6ver uppfylla f\u00f6r att vara bidragsber\u00e4ttigad \u00e4r n\u00e5gra f\u00e5 grundl\u00e4ggande krav som r\u00f6r bland annat hur l\u00e4nge man har funnits och hur m\u00e5nga medlemmar man har. Det \u00e4r sj\u00e4lvfallet fel att skattepengar delas ut p\u00e5 s\u00e5 l\u00e4ttviktiga grunder.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Po\u00e4ngen med att dela ut bidrag utan att l\u00e4gga sig i sj\u00e4lva verksamheten \u00e4r att st\u00e4rka ett fritt civilsamh\u00e4lle utan statlig styrning. Bidrag till barn- och ungdomsorganisationer ges &#8221;f\u00f6r att skapa b\u00e4ttre f\u00f6ruts\u00e4ttningar f\u00f6r barn och ungdomars sj\u00e4lvst\u00e4ndiga organisering och inflytande i samh\u00e4llet&#8221; som det st\u00e5r p\u00e5 <a href=\"http:\/\/ungdomsstyrelsen.se\/barn-ungdomsorganisationer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ungdomsstyrelsens hemsida<\/a>. Dock finns det olika formella krav p\u00e5 de organisationer som s\u00f6ker bidrag, bland annat ska de vara <a href=\"http:\/\/ungdomsstyrelsen.se\/demokratisk-verksamhet\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">demokratiskt organiserad<\/a> och rikst\u00e4ckande.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201d\u00c4mnet \u00e4r extra aktuellt och br\u00e4nnhett nu \u2013 bokstavligt talat \u2013 eftersom organisationen Megafonen, som b\u00e4r en stor del av ansvaret f\u00f6r kravallerna och bilbr\u00e4nderna i Husby de senaste dagarna, f\u00e5r st\u00f6d f\u00f6r sin verksamhet av Ungdomsstyrelsen.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>H\u00e4r riktar Joar Horn allvarliga anklagelser mot en organisation utan att ha bevis eller ens argument f\u00f6r det.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201dVad g\u00f6r d\u00e5 de \u00f6vriga \u00f6ver 200 organisationerna med sina pengar? Om detta \u00e4r lite k\u00e4nt eftersom Ungdomsstyrelsen inte har n\u00e5gon avancerad granskning d\u00e4r pengarna i detalj m\u00e5ste redovisas.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ungdomsstyrelsen.se\/organisationsbidrag-redovisning\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Detta \u00e4r helt enkelt inte sant.<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201dJag sj\u00e4lv, och m\u00e5nga ansvariga politiker med mig, har en bakgrund i ungdomsf\u00f6rbunden, och har p\u00e5 n\u00e4ra h\u00e5ll kunnat se vad Ungdomsstyrelsens bidragspengar har g\u00e5tt till d\u00e4r. Dyra \u00f6vernattningar p\u00e5 hotell i samband med konferenser, subventionerade medlemskap samt heltidsarvoderade f\u00f6rtroendevalda och ombudsm\u00e4n med diffusa uppgifter har varit mer regel \u00e4n undantag.\u201d\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Nu vill jag inte g\u00e5 in p\u00e5 vilket politiskt ungdomsf\u00f6rbund Joar Horn (M) kan t\u00e4nkas ha ett bakgrund i. Men de allra flesta ungdomsorganisationer anv\u00e4nder sina bidrag avsev\u00e4rt mycket b\u00e4ttre \u00e4n s\u00e5. Det \u00e4r bara att kolla in verksamhetsber\u00e4ttelserna f\u00f6r att se vilken fantastisk verksamhet som bedrivs i ungdomsorganisationer.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201dDet enda moraliskt f\u00f6rsvarbara argumentet f\u00f6r att f\u00f6rdela denna stora summa pengar \u00e4r att ge den till n\u00e5got som ger en tydlig samh\u00e4llsnytta tillbaka.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Ungdomsorganisationer (och andra f\u00f6reningar f\u00f6r den delen) \u00e4r en <a href=\"http:\/\/foreningforalla.se\/tro-och-overtro-pa-demokrati\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">demokratiskola<\/a>. Det \u00e4r i f\u00f6reningslivet medborgarna kan l\u00e4ra sig att kompromissa och l\u00f6sa sina konflikter p\u00e5 ett fredligt s\u00e4tt. Det \u00e4r d\u00e4r m\u00e4nniskor med olika bakgrund m\u00f6ts och d\u00e4r det bildas socialt kapital.<\/p>\n<p>Sj\u00e4lv tycker jag att mer demokrati \u00e4r en fantastisk samh\u00e4llsnytta. Joar Horn lyfter ist\u00e4llet idrottens bidrag till folkh\u00e4lsan. Det \u00e4r f\u00f6rst\u00e5s samh\u00e4llsnytta ocks\u00e5. Men jag ser inte po\u00e4ngen med att st\u00e4lla dessa mot varandra. En mer nyanserad bild ges i Sektor3:s rapport <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sektor3.se\/2010\/06\/demokratiskola-eller-halsoprojekt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Demokratiskola eller h\u00e4lsoprojekt<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Att kasta sten m\u00e5 vara en korkad protestform. Men de som h\u00e5ller p\u00e5 med det har inte l\u00e4rt sig n\u00e5got annat s\u00e4tt att kanalisera sin ilska. S\u00e5 om de senaste dagarnas h\u00e4ndelser har visat en sak, s\u00e5 \u00e4r det att det beh\u00f6vs ett starkare civilsamh\u00e4lle i miljonprogrammet.<\/p>\n<p>Ps. L\u00e4s g\u00e4rna <a href=\"http:\/\/felixkonig.blogspot.se\/2013\/05\/mycket-marklig-analys-ideellt.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Felix K\u00f6nigs inl\u00e4gg i debatten<\/a> ocks\u00e5. Ds.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ig\u00e5r skrev Joar Horn (M) en debattartikel i Aftonbladet i vilken han kopplar kravallerna i Husby till att ungdomsorganisationer f\u00e5r statligt st\u00f6d. D\u00e4rf\u00f6r argumenterar han f\u00f6r att dra in statsbidraget till ungdomsorganisationer och ge pengar till idrotten ist\u00e4llet. Nog h\u00e5ller den offentliga diskussionen om det civila samh\u00e4llet oftast ingen s\u00e4rskilt h\u00f6g niv\u00e5, men Joar Horns [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":83,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","uix_meta_title":"","uix_meta_description":"","uix_canonical_url":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[56],"tags":[66,104,84],"rightplace-folders":[],"class_list":["post-519","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blogg","tag-demokrati","tag-demokratiskola","tag-ungdomar"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Okunnigt och populistiskt om ungdomsorganisationer &#8226; Trinambai<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/trinambai.se\/en\/okunnigt-och-populistiskt-om-ungdomsorganisationer\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_GB\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Okunnigt och populistiskt om ungdomsorganisationer &#8226; Trinambai\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Ig\u00e5r skrev Joar Horn (M) en debattartikel i Aftonbladet i vilken han kopplar kravallerna i Husby till att ungdomsorganisationer f\u00e5r statligt st\u00f6d. 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